Topic: The problems with this site.

You know what guys this WAS a great site to buy and sell gold on but there are several problems that have cropped up over the last few years. I will cover them one by one but before I do I want to warn you guys I am going to be very straight forward because quite frankly I am so tired of the bitching and moaning on this site that I have not sold on here for dang near a year. That is significant because before Dave started changing the site I was second only to him in volume of gold sales. Now here are the problems with this site one by one ( I hope that maybe if someone is brutally honest here something will be done but I have reason to doubt that)

1) Lack of traffic (Dave this one is for you to handle)

2) Would you want to buy gold at a site full of complaints about the sellers, we are grown men and are able to do the math. If you are to lazy to do your own research then you deserve to overpay, if someone is unscrupulous enough to way overprice. Husk and Bert although you guys have been here longer than me at this point I think it is fair to also call me a veteran of Goldbay as well. What you guys are trying to do is honorable but the name slinging, insults and overall boorish behavior is not becoming of anyone and only drives people away. This is directed mostly at Trace and Husk. Husk me and you have butted heads before but recently I offered you an olive branch of peace and I do not want to upset you you know your stuff and you should warn people but once and discreetly not a five alarm bell it detracts from the site and harms all sellers by making this place look like a dangerous place to buy nuggets. If two people decide to sling mud at one another then they both look dirty. I learned that one the hard way with you and refuse to participate in that type of action any longer. As far as the constant references to Bad Ebay sellers quite frankly that is a pile of bull, I have sold on ebay as a power seller for years I have a 99.6% rating with thousands of transactions done. For the most part most Ebay sellers are fair and quite frankly if you look at it in proportion to numbers of listings the percentage of overpriced listings on this site are greater save for daves listings and a couple of others.

3) Dave I am sorry but for the longest time you have been an absentee host, you used to take part every day now it is difficult to get a email returned. I am glad your side gold business is going great for you but you should decide if this site should be kept open and if so hire someone to manage it full time or do it yourself, I really miss the good old days when we were more community minded, lately goldbay has been left to the wolves.

4) Honestly if people cannot get along I hope Dave removes the discussion and comment boards they cause more trouble and harm than they are worth now, at one time they were great but now well read for yourself. Feedback should be enough of a gauge to see if a seller is reputable.

5) This is a site for natural gold purists, only gold and gold related products such as paydirt, nuggets, specimens should be allowed to list on this site. Maybe a section for rare minerals but that is a big maybe.

6) better maintenance of the site, and a help line that offers immediate help. There are so many glitches on the site that someone needs to be available to help new sellers list and sell properly from conception of the advert to feedback! If I was new here and had trouble and had to wait days for a response to a question if on is even received at all, I would move on most likely to ebay which believe it or not now offers phone support for everyone as well as instant online chat. I know Dave does not have eBay's big budget but I seem to remember statements of becoming the largest gold selling site in the net, ebay sells more nuggets in ten minutes than this site does in a week at one time this site offered good support what happened to it?

7) Dave you are by far the most well supplied person with gold and have the best resources but if you want to run a public auction site with peons like me selling it is hard to compete against you if you dominate the listings, You have stated that your private sales far exceed your Goldbay sales why not leave the crumbs for the little guys and maybe contact members/sellers privately and offer to supply them with gold for sale rather than compete with them, you will most likely increase your sales volume, increase the amount of sellers offering their wares and have more time to directly deal with members instead of building listings. the money you make on auction fees would probably better cover your expenses if this site were run with more attention paid to the buyers and sellers.

Ok I am done for the moment and think I covered the major problems I see. I already know someone will say sell on eBay if you don't like it here or something else like that, save your breath because I already am along with starting my own site. I would love to sell on here again and may do so soon, but that will not change the difficulties experienced by new users that I have stated above. Guys I am not trying to make enemies here with this post I respect all of you (even husk lol) and have made several friends on here including Trace, Bert, Dave and others. If you feel the need to berate this post go ahead I will not gratify those type of posts with a response, if you have something constructive to say I will gladly banter about it, and maybe just maybe we will get Dave's attention. And a note to Dave, I know I have been fairly critical of you in this post but I mean it as constructive criticism and only to benefit you and the members, I hope you are not upset at me for this but if you are well what can I do it has been said and I am sorry if that is the case but this forum needs a dose of true reality and honesty, not childish mudslinging, just look at this particular discussion and my points are made. If anyone wants to discuss or berate me for writing this Rather than hurting Goldbay's image further email me privately at Mineral-man@hotmail.com

Sincerely,
Gino The Canadian (lol)

Re: The problems with this site.

SEE MY REPLIES UNDER SELLING GOLD.Sorry about the caps,my replies came up there not here.

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It is unfortunate, but Gino is corrrect in most everything he has pointed out. But I would like to say that during the winter months, at least here in New England, gold prospecting comes to a halt so there is not much to sell other than what has been purchased already. On another note, I have encountered the worst nightmare of all...Paying for an Item I have won at auction on Gold Bay $2230 dollar item) and never recieving the item. Fortunately, there are interstate commerce laws that are upheld by the FBI which remedy such instances but I fear I may never see the item I purchased of the money I sent in the form of a bank check(Registered mail). So take heed, my friends, we have a theif among us.
Please note that I shall not publicly name him but if you wish to know who it is, you can simply email me privately.

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I should ALSO note that we who collect Gold Nuggets are a small, exclusive community. Most people purchase gold bullion or buy paper shares from a gold index. With the economy as poor as it is , world wide, Husk has a valid point in that you cant eat gold. You also cant simply walk into a gold buyer and sell your nuggets. Firstly, the gold buyer is only interested in Purity and weight. Secondly, the gold buyer is going to MELT DOWN your nugget and destroy it FOREVER. I, Myself, simply couldnt stand to see that happen. What we purchase here are museum pieces that can only be sold among a very select crowd and that crowd has dwindled due to economic restraints. Even I have purchased shares of GLD (The gold ETF) as well as PALL (Palladium) and SLV (Silver) ETF's. However, my love for the majestic beauty of natural gold will never go away so every time I see gold from a site I have never before seen, I will purchase at least a few pieces to add to my collection. Someday I hope my collection of gold nuggets will be of a greater historic value than Gold bullion itself. But I digress, Traffic on this site is directly related to the economy. I have advertised on my facebook site and recommend this site to everyone I speak to. I also try to get as many people as I can into gold panning. Once they "get the fever" it never goes away. So I say to you all, Reach out to people and get more folks interested in getting off the couch and heading off to a stream with a shovel, a bucket, classifier and gold pan. We are a dwindling lot and it is our responsability to teach the younger generation the joy of panning for nature's most beautiful metal.

I now relinquish my soap box *L*

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Trace ,would You e-mail Me at fbbertusa@yahoo.com.We used to be able to get e-mail address' from the site but either we can't do it any longer or I do not know where to find it any longer.
Thanks Bert

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ANd, one last but very important thing... Thus far, no one has been charged to list or sell their gold on this site. It has been a free ride for us all so we should be thankful that this site exists for we select few who collect natural gold. Without this, we would be left with E-Bay and a few sites in Australia. After what I have just experienced and the incredible support Dave is offering to solve my issue, I really cant say that he hasnt spent enough time here. I think he has a day job and there is a second person who works on the code for this site who also probably has a day job. We cant expect this site to become a publicly traded stock for the simple reason that most people dont even know the beauty of natural gold nuggets except from the rings and neclasses they see at tiffany and the like.

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And I emailed you Bert *S*

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Trace:Free listing has only been going on since all the problems started,Sellers had to pay a fee + a small  % of the sale price.Did You get Your GOLD today??The last time I heard One of DAVE ' programmers lives in another country which I can not recall at the moment.